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Here is an update from CBS from San Francisco on Juggalo Family, Horrorcore and recent murders starring your Tunnel Runner MARS and Kung Fu Vampire.....
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HA I'll have to watch this when I'm not working. The problem with most "investigative reports" on counter culture subjects is they tend to start with an opinion and they are just trying to find the evidence to support it. Often when evidence doesn't turn up, they expound on whatever little bullshit they can possibly dig up on some off shoot jack ass who took shit a piece of this shit too seriously. One day, they will learn that one individual does not represent the group. Or at least, they'll apply that concept to other groups than the ones they agree with... Wishful thinking. |
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Cali Ninja
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SF is so damn close... I'll have to spend a day out there. I haven't been out there in a few weeks. |
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An incredibly entertaining mofo. I just heard of him a few months ago and checked out his website, which has streaming music. Dude's done a track with Spice-1 which was enough to have me sold. |
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"Charles Manson was a Beatles fan." That's fucking fresh. in his books he talks about how The Beatles lyrics were sercrest messages to him telling him to free black people from their white american oppressors. who knows if he really belived it or not. maybe it was just something he made up to convince them he was nuts. Blackbird was a specific song that he claimed represented this. |
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Cali Ninja
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I thought he was trying to start a war between whites and blacks? It's funny that he would want to free black people from whites since he's... um.... white. |
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Cali Ninja
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What's fucking fresh is the Beatles were the first band to inspire serial murder. Take that religious parent coalitions! |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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C'mon now, I'm sure Jack the Ripper enjoyed some band of the time. |
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foolonthehill
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Bang!Bang! Maxwells silver hammer came down upon her head Bang!Bang! Maxwells silver hammer made sure that she was dead first to write a whole song about one too to my knowledge |
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dont manson gots a swastica carved in his forehead? if he wanted to free black people why the fuck'd get a swastica etched tween his fuckin eyes? |
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Joan was quizzical, studied metaphysical Science in the home Late nights all alone with a test-tube (sounds like a perverted reference here concerning the shape of testtubes) Ohh-oh-oh-oh... Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine Calls her on the phone "Can I take you out to the pictures Joa-oa-oa-oan?" But as she's getting ready to go A knock comes on the door... Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Came down upon her head Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Made sure that she was dead Back in school again Maxwell plays the fool again (another reason for my tag nmae here) Teacher gets annoyed Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene She tells Max to stay when the class has gone away So he waits behind Writing 50 times "I must not be so-o-o-oo..." But when she turns her back on the boy He creeps up from behind Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Came down upon her head Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Made sure that she was dead B.C. Thirty-One said "we caught a dirty one" Maxwell stands alone Painting testimonial pictures ohh-oh-oh-oh Rose and Valerie screaming from the gallery Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free) The judge does not agree and he tells them so-o-o-oo But as the words are leaving his lips A noise comes from behind Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Came down upon his head Bang, Bang, Maxwell's silver hammer Made sure that he was dead 'Hey Jude' is about being hooked to heroin. give me moment and i'll show you what i mean. |
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Cali Ninja
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Whoa Whoa, Hey Jude was not about heroin. I've heard that before. Alot of Beatles songs that people think are about drugs aren't, and alot of ones that people don't think are about drugs are. Hey Jude is not about heroin. It was written for Julian Lennon, who Paul McCartney felt sorry for because John was a neglectful father. Got to Get You Into My Life is about weed though. |
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Cali Ninja
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C'mon now, I'm sure Jack the Ripper enjoyed some band of the time.Perhaps, but he probably wasn't inspired by those bands to kill. The most probable suspect was deranged before the Ripper murders. Charlie was directly influenced by the Beatles to kill. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Eh, it was more of an indirect inspiration from what I've read. The Beatles thing was just a good basis for an insanity plea. What made him snap was the Monkees getting a record deal. |
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Hey Jude don't make it bad Take a sad song and make it better (of course. you have a addiction it sucks and it is only fixed by 'getting' a fix) Remember to let her into your heart Then you can start to make it better Hey Jude don't be afraid You were made to go out and get her (he was made to go out and get a drug he is addicted to. drugs are commonly reffered to as girls) The minute you let her under your skin (heroic is of course shot into the bloodstream 'under your skin') Then you begin to make it better (obviously refers to getting the actual 'fix') And any time you feel the pain, Hey Jude, refrain Don't carry the world upon your shoulders For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder (those four lines you could twist to refer to many things so i won't bother) Na na na na na na na na na Hey Jude don't let me down You have found her now go and get her (like calling around on the phone for a fix, found it, go to get it) Remember to let her into your heart Then you can start to make it better (just another bloodstream reference involving how the drug takes effect) So let it out and let it in ( the physical motion of using a syringe) Hey Jude begin You're waiting for someone to perform with And don't you know that it's just you Hey Jude you'll do The movement you need is on your shoulder (when alone heroic users must use their shoulder to tighten their rubberband) Na na na na na na na na na Yeah Hey Jude don't make it bad (basicly repeating of the previous) Take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you'll begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, Yeah,Yeah,Yeah (at this climax of an ending is where i figure it is time to shoot up) (the song depicts the process of fiending, finding, doing alone and the euphoria of doing it) Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na, Hey Jude! keep in mind this song was written when they started actualy doing the drug. Paul wrote it. maybe it was a message to John who's 2nd wife Yoko had 3 (maybe more) misscarriges due to heroin. |
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Cali, can't you possibly see how a world famous guy hooked to heroin would not be considered a neglectful father? gotta look depper into it. Paul and John wrote tons of material about each other. When they split up they made diss tracks just like rappers do today. Even album covers were insults in some cases between the two. Ever listened to 'How do you sleep at night'? |
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Besides Cali. The Beatles always bullshitted the media about song content. In 'I am the Walrus' the outro has many trippy voices saying ' smoke pot, smoke pot, everybody smoke pot'. when confronted in an interview about this John told them . "no, its saying 'OOmpa OOmpa stick it up your joompa". more or less, 'fuck off'. |
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cali ninja is correct, Paul McCartney wrote this as "Hey Jules," a song meant to comfort John Lennon's 5-year-old son Julian as his parents were getting a divorce. The change to "Jude" was inspired by the character "Jud" in the musical Oklahoma!. McCartney loves show tunes. In 1987 Julian ran into Paul in New York City when they were staying at the same hotel and he finally heard Paul tell him the story of the song first-hand. He admitted to Paul that growing up, he'd always felt closer to him than to his own father. In Steve Turner's book The Stories Behind Every Beatles Song, Julian said: "Paul told me he'd been thinking about my circumstances, about what I was going through and what I'd have to go through. Paul and I used to hang out quite a bit - more than Dad and I did... There seem to be far more pictures of me and Paul playing at that age than me and Dad. I've never really wanted to know the truth of how Dad was and how he was with me. There was some very negative stuff - like when he said that I'd come out of a whisky bottle on a Saturday night. That's tough to deal with. You think, where's the love in that? It surprises me whenever I hear the song. It's strange to think someone has written a song about you. It still touches me. |
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foolonthehill
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yea, like i never seen any of that. it amazes me how people listen to the media and even more that they don't realize the many, many meanings any one song can have. its sad. |
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herbalminded420
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also thank you whatever news channel for helping spread the word of the wicked shit. turdy you go to the hospital yet. |
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I guess it's just a funny coincedence that the song came out around the same time they were both hooked to heroin. Even funnier that whenever an obvious drug song hit the charts they pulled the 'It's about John's son' card. Shadou. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds like Hey Jude was said to be inspired by Julian. It was a picture he made at school and showed to his dad telling him the title of the song as the title of his drawing. of course it has nothing to do with LSD. how could anyone think that?(sarcasm) anyway. if artist were to reveal the true meanings behind all their songs it would be pretty lame. whenever you get these meanings you have to consider they are are only going to reveal so much. some songs are more personal than others and to claim some simple media explanation is all there is to it is incredibly dense and closeminded. a 'good' songwriter can't tell you every meaning their song has, because they alrady know thats not how it works. you can't contoll magic. good luck trying though. i never stop trying..... |
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The "Lucy" who inspired this song was Lucy O'Donnell (later Lucy Vodden), who was a classmate of John's son Julian Lennon when he was enrolled at the private Heath House School, in Weybridge, Surrey. It was in a 1975 interview that Lennon said "Julian came in one day with a picture about a school friend of his named Lucy. He had sketched in some stars in the sky and called it Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds." The identity of the real Lucy was confirmed by Julian in 2009 when she died of complications from Lupus. Lennon re-connected with her after she appeared on a BBC broadcast where she stated: "I remember Julian and I both doing pictures on a double-sided easel, throwing paint at each other, much to the horror of the classroom attendant… Julian had painted a picture and on that particular day his father turned up with the chauffeur to pick him up from school." |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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herbalminded420 said: Jeebus, son, it says the channel on the fucking video. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Way to wikipedia that shit, kid. We can tell you didn't type that out because it uses proper grammar. |
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foolonthehill
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errr.... forgive the many typos.... i just woke up not long ago..... |
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Shadou
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lol, i cant really say shit if it was about a picture or not, im not really a big beatles buff, i just like a few songs...but alot of then seem drugg orientated |
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herbalminded420
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one of the best musicals besides grease is accros the universe all done with beatles songs. turdy go to the damn hospital you might have lupus |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Eh, I'm more of a Beach Boys fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU5IODKNbNs If only they would've finished Smile, we'd probably be discussing them right now. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Cannibal! The Musical is the BEST musical. And I'm not even going to get into you thinking Grease was the best musical. Homo. |
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foolonthehill
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but alot of then seem drugg orientated well, regardless of what any particular song does/could mean, those guys were always on plenty of drugs. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Pretty much any song ever made can be interpretted to mean whatever you want it to mean. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Case in point: Horsedick.mpeg - Ima Fuck a White Bitch Ima fuck (make love to - love) me a white bitch (cocaine) Boom, that song's about drugs. |
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foolonthehill
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Lol turdy. atleast you knows whats up. the multi-powers of music can never be defined by media quotes. at least not in my world. |
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herbalminded420
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necros i need drugs good song but the music video for it is fucked up |
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herbalminded420
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copy an paste this in your browser its a fucked up video. http://www.vidiLife.com/video_play_873600_I_need_drugs_music_video_by_necro.htm |
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herbalminded420
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1 dude in there i swear is necros and ill bills uncle howie |
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Shadou
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sweeny todd or the chronicles of narnia musical are the best musicals ive ever seen |
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Cali Ninja
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Man I just read the book "A Hard Day's Write" which was an independent person talking with the band, researching and interviewing people who associated with them at the time. Most of the drug references were actually concocted by the media and hearsay, not the other way around. As drugged out as they got, it's not what they predominantly wrote about. It's just how the drugged out culture interpreted it. And the end of I am the Walrus says "got one, got one, everybody's got one". BTW, that song is about nothing. He was trying to parody Bob Dylan with that song. Lennon's quote when writing it was "Bob Dylan gets away with murder. I can write this crap." |
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Cali Ninja
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Eh, I'm more of a Beach Boys fan.I never would've guessed. But technically Brian Wilson did finish Smile. He just finished it about a year ago instead of 40 years ago. It makes the wait time for GnR's Chinese Democracy look like piss. |
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I'm more of a Fiddler on the Roof or Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory fan. I'm in our schools production of A Christmas Carol the musical. |
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Shadou
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nahh, it was pretty good..not my kind of thing but good none the less |
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I'm a really minor role. I'm Mr Smythe. Then I'm a rich man, a different rich man, and a monk. |
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Did anyone know there is a black rapper named Boondox? I swear to god, fucker stole our Boondox's name. Dont believe me check out this link http://checkthetechnique.blogspot.com/2008/10/boondox-tripple-laced.html |
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i have nothing to ad to this post because i am a heterosexual male, im not into musicals and broadway bullshit. fags! pussy 4 life fool. |
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you can take the word love in any song and replace it with the word drug, and or drugs, drugged,etc depending on the sentence structure and it works. |
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I am too a heterosexual male,however I AM into musicals and broadway bullshit. fags! |
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I have another one from tonight on the Cleveland Fox8 news. I recorded this and put it on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPgx7VcqAr4 |
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hahah he had to drop the clowns name, what a douche, but looks like he will be gettin off probation early cause all these news apperences...... |
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That was a pretty cool interview. And since we're talking about musicals, my two favorite are Fiddler On The Roof and Sweeney Tod. |
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frosty2fresh said: ....but when use try'n to overachieve on a dime use gotta know ur lit bs. cuz there's pussy..and then there's puSAY! |
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i seriously have no idea what your talkin about half tha time....... and i dont go after dimes im a nickle man. |
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this whole story and most of the sshit they talk about horrorcore is bullshit they dont know shit about anything fuck the government |
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Talkin about beatles! I am the walrus is a fucked up song, but i wouldnt mind hearin a twiztid cover of it! |
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sacksmacker said dont manson gots a swastica carved in his forehead? if he wanted to free black people why the fuck'd get a swastica etched tween his fuckin eyes? he wanted the black people to rise an realize manson was here leader so he could take over the world. read helter skelter good fuckin book yall. im not races tho shits wack as fuck mcl |
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Don't know much about Manson, but I do know he only carved a swastika in his head after he got tired of just having the X. |
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Ha....Sence When Did KMK Become Horror Core lol....Wtf Ever |
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Poultrygeist Night of the Chicken Dead is a great fucking musical that nobody has mentioned yet. |
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There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc., etc... And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK. But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. you call me a racist. You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live? You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day.. You have Black History Month. You haveCesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had aWhite Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists. We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?? A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color woman can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. But a black officer beats a white drug dealer he is a hero. I am proud... But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?? Thank God for saint patricks day |
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Some knowledge for your ass. 1. Charles Manson was not a Beatles fan, he didn't even like them, he likes the banjo. 2. He never actually killed a single person in his life, so they accused him of conspiracy instead. 3. A retarded asshole who lived with him an the girls (that were never called family) told Charlie's chicks to help him kill people who he thought Charlie had beef with. In fact Charlie had already met the man and squashed the beef, the people in his building had nothing to do with Charlie, wrong place wrong time. 4. Because there was zero evidence against Charlie the attorney made up a nonsensical story about the Beatles. If you want to know more about Manson watch the German documentary on YouTube and the interview with Reagen Jr. And don't repeat that nonsence the media made up when you complain about them talking shit about Horrorcore. Manson's just a bum and a motorcycle thug, not a satanist. |
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herbal, you didn't watch the vid-link I posted about pride, did you? |
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The "German documentary on YouTube and the interview with Reagen Jr." is the media. Fuck fact checking if the media isn't gonna fact check then why should we? Besides Manson's a piece of shit so who fucking cares if he's misrespresented or misquoted? The people that he had killed got it way worse than that. Oh yeah and HerbalMinded420 every month is white history month and if you think racism is such a big fucking joke go move to a country filled with brown people that think white people are inferior like Iraq. Don't be mad at us because screaming white pride makes you sound like a fucking skinhead, be mad at skinheads for fucking that phrase up for the rest of the white people. Besides nobody says shit if a white guy says he has Irish pride, or Polish pride or even American pride it's just white pride that makes you sound like a bigot. Boo fucking hoo. You live on stolen land in a country that was built by slaves and you're mad at us? Seriously? Wow, what a fucking asshole. |
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Jugga Lylo said: I'm kind of shitty cuz I still haven't seen it. |
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Fun Facts about Scorb #1 He knows WAY too much about good old Charlie #2 He was beating off when typing this out #3 he likes long walks on short beaches but hates long walks on long beaches #4 Because TV said it it must be true lol |
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no turdy i didnt, im a little scared to its probaly some gay pride thing or proud to have lupus socity since its coming from you but its whatever do what makes you happy |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDgmjL6z2jY Watch it. Or just keep ignorantly draggin this shit out when you could just drop it and less people would think you were a moron. |
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There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc., etc... Couldn't have said it better myself, feel the exact same way! |
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can you accomplish being a Juggalo or is it a freak accident that you are a Juggalo? |
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Shadou
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the reason why white people cant say shit is because of the kkk, the nazi's, black slavery, settling of the new world, and alot of other shit tht white people did, they cant say shit cuz they werent put through barely anything |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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And But, it's not ok. |
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Turdy McSmutbags
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Racism is racism, it's not justifiable in any means that you try to justify it with. That spam e-mail you posted is just taking something that is all around negative and using it to try and look like the racists are the victims. And it's wrong, racists are racists, no matter what their skin color. |
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herbalminded420
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so change the words instead of pride put happy it will still work out the same. happy to be a juggalo or proud to be a juggalo. happy to be white sounds more racist then saying white pride. |
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ask jose illegal to hook a brother up! cuz its friday, i aint got a job n i got shit to do! |
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Dark Jedi Hillz said:Yes. But only cuz Barbara Streisand makes me want to ice pick my eardrums. |
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Here in Lincoln they are doing Reefer Madness and Evil Dead musicals. |
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And at Evil Dead if you sit in the first three rows you get splattered with blood |
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If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), Called CMT, bro. Haha There's good people and bad people, smart people and ignorant people. Don't be a bigot, man. Havn't you learned anything? |
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There's good people and bad people, smart people and ignorant people. Don't be a bigot, man. Word. And as far as the Joe vs. Jose shit goes, if we would reform the immigration laws then illegals would work legally, pay taxes and contribute more to our economic growth. |
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herbalminded420 said: as a Native American I wanna let you know you also have the right to leave |
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i was at that show,the line outside,the show that night,and the shit all the way around,it was majic,PURE FUKIN MAJIC,thats all i'll say for my first icp show!!!!!!! |
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LMAO LMAO!! Kottonmouth kings as Horrorcore lol ok lets take a group like the Pierces "Well, sticks and stones will break your bones And leave you lying in the mud But you get scared when we’re alone Like I might suck your blood Well I could tell you a witch’s spell But it just might blow your top Then you start to run just as I’m having fun And it’s awfully hard to stop Its awfully hard to stop" now they sing LOVELY and they get sold out shows NOW if they were to rap and have hard riff Parents would be in the streets yelling |
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Im listening to sgt peppers lonely hearts club band right now. does anybody know what Lucy in the sky with diamonds is about? and if u say drugs your fuckin wrong... |
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hey, what are the MARS songs on the video? im trying to find 'em but no where has lyrics to look those up |
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to herbal minded if your so worried about illegal aliens then you need to pay attention to what our government is doing. in 2005 bush signed the north american union act behind the voters backs to merge canada and mexico into north america to make on country .obama is continuing this agenda.considering this country was founded by slave owners who wanted to be free who stole land and destroyed whole cultures who really cares anymore we should b more concerned with thethings the government is doing. for all my young juggalos obama is putting in effect a mandatory 3 months boot camp training for 18-25 yr olds in 2010 please do some search aand fight this |
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even my 58yr old mother says "sum people r fuked in the head,its not the music. leave the juggalos alone." moms down!!! |
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