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Many people often wonder about certain projects that Psychopathic Records has hyped up in the past but never saw the light of day. Some of these have been explained, while others have not. We at JuggaloNews.com hope to compile the most extensive and detailed list we can find. If you know an item that is not listed on here, or you have an explanation for one that we don't have, then email someone here at the site and we'll correct that shit quick.
| Soopa Villainz/Soopa Heroez |
After years of hype, the Soopa Villainz debut album Furious was released in 2005. With it, a host of other projects were announced including tours, scattered concerts, comic books, action figures, another SV album, etc. etc.
However, in October of 2005, Esham (the Soopa Villain known as Mr. Spade) left Psychopathic Records, and with it, all SV-related projects (including the Soopa Heroez album, featuring Twiztid) were cancelled.
It has since been rumored that Esham owns the rights to the SV name and projects (unknown) and that Esham and Lavel would be forming their own version of the Soopa Villainz, outside of Psychopathic (remains to be seen). Keep in mind, these are just rumors. |
| Hatchet Attacks concert in Denver |
Starting around mid-2005, all Psychopathic Records albums came with a little flyer inside the case that advertised a HUGE concert that would take place in Denver, CO in March of 2006. The show would be called Hatchet Attacks and was scheduled to feature concerts from EVERYONE on Psychopathic. Every artist on the label, plus all the super groups (Lotus, Rydas, Villainz, Drive-By, etc.). A full day of music, from early in the morning to late at night, taking place at a huge coliseum. However, in late 2005, ICP.com announced that the concert wasn't going to happen. In the explanation given, the venue in Denver attempted to change the date to April or May, but Psychopathic had already scheduled a ton of other shit (Shaggy tour, Twiztid tour, ABK tour, etc.) during those months. So the whole thing was cancelled. Will it happen any other year? Time will tell... |
| ICP collab with Debbie Gibson |
I think this was pretty much just some shit that got started on the Howard Stern Show, when Howard was trying to get ICP to do a song with Debbie Gibson and they both were like, "Fuck it, I'll do it!" but of course, it was just some shit said in passing, probably never was gonna happen. |
| 2nd video from The Wraith: Shangri-La |
ICP.com held a poll shortly after the album was released asking juggalos to vote on which song they should make a video for to push as the 2nd single (after "Homies"). The choices were "It Rains Diamonds", "The Wraith", and "Ain't Yo Bidness." At the Psychopathic seminar at the 2003 Gathering, Netmaster Gordon revealed that "Ain't Yo Bidness" won the poll but a video never got filmed. And given how long it's been since the album came out, it probably never will. |
| Dark Lotus/Godsmack collab |
Before the first Dark Lotus album was ever released, back when it was still just ICP and Twiztid in the group, ICP met up with Godsmack and discussed doing a song together for the Dark Lotus album. As usual, Violent J started blabbing about how they were gonna do a song with Godsmack but it just never really happened. He gets excited sometimes, it happens. |
| Twiztid/Wolfpac song on Cryptic Collection Vol. 3 |
A few months before the album was released, on Twiztid.com, they announced that there would be a song on the album featuring Wolfpac, but, well, that never happened. They DID record a song a few months before that called "XMas In The Hood" and gave it away on the website, but this was mentioned AFTER that song, so I'd assume they were talking about another song that hasn't yet been released? This one is pretty much up in the air. |
| Blaze's verse on Esham's "Look At Me" song |
It's true. Blaze originally had a verse on the song "Look At Me" from Esham's album Repentence but for some reason, it was cut out and all that's left is a shorter song with Esham and Twiztid. No one knows why it was cut, but it might have to do with the fact that Blaze was "retired" at the time. |
| Samhein Witch Killaz |
Will it happen? Eventually, I'm sure. Mike E. Clark revealed in an interview that the lineup was going to consist of Madrox, Monoxide, R.O.C., and MEC himself. Basically, imagine how awesome HOK would be with MEC making the beats. But it got pushed to the back burner due to so many other things. But the lineup DOES consist of Twiztid and R.O.C. No word on where MEC stands in the mix of things anymore. An advertisement in the booklet of Mutant advertises the album as coming out in 2006 with the lineup of Mr. Bones, Hektik, and the R.O.C. With Mike E. Clark being back in the fold of Psychopathic now, hopefully he still gets to do the beats for the album. |
| Whatever happened to Twiztid's rock project, Black Majik |
Black Majik was going to be Twiztid's side project of rock songs and such. But basically, they started working on the Black Majik album and instead of kick ass rock songs...they sounded pretty much like any ol' Twiztid song with guitars. They wanted to do something DIFFERENT and since it wasn't coming out how they wanted it to, they scrapped the project and 2 of the Black Majik songs were released elsewhere ("Alone" on Mirror Mirror and "Wrong With Me" as a give away single from a past Hallowicked.)
In 2005, Twiztid released an album entitled Mutant which is basically a rock album. Madrox has said that if you wanna listen to Mutant, close your eyes and pretend it's called Black Majik, then feel free to do so. In other words - Mutant pretty much IS Black Majik. |
| Special "Behind The Paint" giveaway CD at 1st GOTJ |
At the first Gathering in 2000, Psychopathic had planned to give away a special CD featuring the single "Behind The Paint" to juggalos who won contests and such. But basically what happened was they decided the song was way too sad and serious to just give away at an event full of such partying and happiness, so they saved it and released it on the Bizzar album later that year. |
| Twiztid/KMK "Stoned In The Cemetary" Tour |
This story sorta varies depending on who you ask, but Twiztid and KMK were supposed to launch a nationwide tour where KMK would headline the west coast dates and Twiztid would headline the east coast dates. But the tour never got off the ground because they had a big argument over stage setup and putting up money for the tour and etc. etc. yada yada. Basically money got involved and they couldn't agree to shit and the tour got called off.
Twiztid and KMK went on to diss each other a few times in various songs, but in 2004, Madrox called up Brad Daddy X of KMK and they squashed the beef right then and there. Everything between Twiztid and KMK is cool again now. |
| Twiztid Horror Story Song-Contest |
I remember this one real well. It was a Halloween contest back in, I think, 2001. Basically, Twiztid asked the juggalos to write a fuckin' dark violent horror story and submit it. They would read all the entries and whichever story was the best, they would turn it into a song with the winner being a part of the storyline in the song. AWESOME idea and hey, even I submitted something. But alas, I don't think a winner was ever mentioned and the song most certainly was never made. |
| 60 Minute Interview CD: "The Real J & Shaggy" |
Around the era of the 5th Joker's Card, Violent J posted a big long thing on InsaneClownPosse.com detailing some of the plans they had instore. One of these plans consisted of releasing a CD on tour that would consist of a long ass hour-long interview with J and Shaggy where they would reveal everything, from the secret of the Butterfly to what the 6th Joker's Card would be, and much more. This was never released and it's safe to say that it probably never will be. |
| Shockumentary 2: "Behind The Paint" VHS/DVD |
At the Gathering 2002 in Peoria, during Friday's seminar, Violent J said that this film was still in the works and that some of it was being filmed right there at the Gathering. But 2 years later, it had yet to be released. When asked about it at the 2004 GOTJ seminar, J stated that it wasn't coming out, but that they were working on something similar...a documentary ABOUT juggalos, but that it would not be called Shockumentary 2. So to this day, still unreleased. |
| "Hallowicked '99" VHS/DVD |
Another one of those plans that just never happened and probably never will. Psychopathic filmed the 1999 Hallowicked concert in Detroit and said they had plans to release it on DVD and VHS but now it's a half-decade later and it hasn't come out so it's safe to say it never will. Probably just some footage Psychopathic is sitting on. |
| "Gathering 2000" VHS/DVD |
Much like the Hallowicked video, Psychopathic said they would release one for the first ever Gathering in Novi, MI. There WERE camera crews on hand and bits and pieces of the footage can be see on Twiztid's Born Twiztid video as well as the Bootlegged In Denver concert DVD that was released with Hell's Pit but a full video of the footage was never released and probably won't be. |
| ICP Calendar |
This calendar was hyped in the ICP comics and was supposed to be put together by the people at Chaos! Comics. The calendar would feature a "Yo Mama is so..." diss for each day of the year. But it was scrapped and Chaos! Comics later went out of business. |
| "We Gives No Fuck" video that was filmed in L.A. |
ICP.com said that they were looking for juggalos to make it to the L.A. area on a given date to take part in the filming of a video for the song "We Gives No Fucks" from the album Bizaar but we're not sure if a video was ever filmed or not. |
| The Haunted House Tour |
Originally, this was supposed to be a Psychopathic-created haunted house that would tour the country. It got cancelled in 2000 due to fire regulations and was never made up in 2001 as promised. However, the closest thing to it did happen, as ICP toured various haunted house stops around the country in Oct. 2002, although not with their own setup. |
| Psychopathic Rydas solo albums |
Some of the Violent J/Bullet solos are on the Pendulum #7 and Madrox has since said that some of his solos got turned into full Rydas songs for the Ryden Dirtay album, but no solo Psychopathic Ryda album was ever released. |
| Twiztid Freekshow angel statue |
I believe a prototype of this was made back in 2000 and auctioned off on Twiztid.com during the Christmas Charity Auction, but it was never mass produced. Recently, Madrox has been working with a toy company who is damned and determined to make this statue and it looks to be happening one of these days so don't count this one out yet, even if it is years late. |
| JCW Beanie Boyz set |
Was rumored to be released after the original Beanie Boyz set featuring ICP, Twiztid, and Alex Abbiss, but was never made. |
| Bloody Brothers album |
Originally this was to be Violent J, Shaggy 2 Dope, and Mike E. Clark going under assumed names and gimmicks as butchers, but it got changed to just Violent J and Marz...then it just got dropped altogether after their fallout. Marz revealed that they never recorded any songs for the project. |
| The 'new' JCW Tour |
JCW has only had one tour in it's history and for years, they keep talking about doing another one but it never happens. One of the reasons why is that going around the country and doing serious hardcore wrestling like that every night for a month leaves too many of the wrestlers injured and makes doing a tour impossible because by the last show, there's almost no one left. |
| Tunnel of Love L.P album |
At one point, ICP was rumored to be re-releasing the Tunnel of Love album as an LP. It would feature all the original songs, plus enough new songs to make it a full album. Once again, it just never happened. |
| Legz Diamond Crime Family album |
This album was advertised in the booklet for Tunnel of Love but was never released. Basically...umm...no reason was given. Legs just decided not to do it I guess. But he still works with Psychopathic to this day, doing backup vocals on many of ICP's songs. |
| "Shaggy Show" compilation VHS/DVD |
This was filmed in Aug. of 2002 while Violent J and Shaggy were in Los Angeles and the surrounding areas signing autographs and appearing on the Loveline radio show. As they drove around the western United States with Esham in tow, the Shaggy Show video was filmed and was planned to be released. However, at the 2003 Gathering, they revealed that all the footage they ended up with really fuckin' sucked. They took it to a company to try to restore the footage to make it useable, but it still sucked too much to put out. In 2004, Shaggy revealed that he was starting on it again, to be released around Christmas time of 2004, but of course, that still never happened. And once again, at the 2005 Gathering, they said once again that they were planning to do it, but we'll see if it happens. |
| Shaggy 2 Dope solo LP |
For years, Shaggy has been trying to release a full length solo album to follow up on Fuck Off!. Originally, he was going to release an album called Shaggs The Clown but he only did a couple of songs for it before he got lazy and quit. In 2001, he claimed he was starting up again, but once again, he just said fuck it and quit. Then, for a third time, at the 2003 Gathering, he claimed he was starting on a solo album entitled Fuck The Fuck Off. The album even got scheduled to come out in Sept. of 2005 but at the last minute, Psychopathic postponed it, changing the release to February of 2006. Word has it that a lot of the album HAS been recorded so we'll probably get it eventually, but right now, this is taking longer to come out than Jumpsteady's Chaos Theory album. |
| Psychopathic warehouse/JCW Arena |
I think it was in 2000, Psychopathic purchased a big ass new warehouse to contain all the HatchetGear merch and such. They also said that they would be holding monthly JCW events there for juggalos in the Detroit area to come check out. They apparently did get the warehouse but no JCW events open to the public ever took place. |
| OG Juggalos Club |
Back when Bizzar Bizaar was released, ICP were selling their souls to get "Let's Go All The Way" on MTV's TRL. Sorry, it's true. Hate it if you want, but they tried their damndest to sell out. While trying to convince the juggalos to go vote, many juggalos questioned that, if ICP blew up and got famous, how would they still treat their original down since day-1 fanbase that was around before the fame. The answer to that was the OG Juggalos Club, posted on ICP.com. Basically, you could sign up before the TRL shit and then whenever ICP got big and famous, they'd give out fresh benefits like free merch and backstage passes to the juggalos on the OG Juggalos list, that way they wouldn't get lost in the shuffle of all the new fans.
So what happened to it? Well, when the whole thing was over, as a result of the sell-out attempt, ICP ended up losing probably half their fuckin' fanbase. So there were no new juggalos and not a whole lot of OG ones left either. So I'd assume this shit got scrapped and to this day, the TRL-debacle probably stands as one of ICP's biggest mistakes. |
| The Necronomican maps |
Hear me out on this one. Basically, the year was 2000. ICP and Twiztid had new albums coming out and so did Esham. They were all kickin' it and cool with Esham at the time, so they devised a plan. There would be 5 albums coming out around that time: Bizzar, Bizaar, Freekshow, Tales From The Lotus Pod, and Esham's Tongues album. So they would take a map, cut it into 5 pieces and each album would contain a piece of the map. You'd need all 5 pieces to figure it out and the map would lead you to...the Necronomicon. Yup. And so about 10 minutes later, someone at Psychopathic actually woke up and realized that this was a really...umm, bad...idea, so it never happened. |
| "Big Money Rustlas" VHS/DVD |
The reason this has taken so long is that they cannot film this movie without the backing of a major record label to supply the budget. Back when they did Big Money Hustlas, Island Records paid the money to get it made (until they went over budget and then ICP paid the money to get it finished right out of their own pockets). Anyway, ever since ICP got dropped from Island, they haven't been able to film the movie. It looked like the movie would happen again after all when they signed up with D3 Entertainment in 2002 but less than a year later, they parted ways with D3 and as of this writing, Psychopathic still does not have a major label to fund the movie. When filming Big Money Hustlas, not only did they go over the budget that Island gave them, they ended up spending $100,000 of their own money just to finish it, so needless to say, it's an expensive venture that Psychopathic can't afford alone. They did, however, hold auditions at the 2003 Gathering for a cameo role, but here we are years later and that's as far as it's gone. |
| Vampiro solo album |
Former WCW wrestler and rock musician Vampiro was pretty much signed to Psychopathic at one point and was working on an album. At one point, Violent J said that the album was already 75% done. So why was it never released? Well, one night, Vampiro had a match with Mike Awesome. During the match, he took a NASTY powerbomb and got a serious concussion. A few weeks later, he was at a concert with ICP (on the Bizzar Bizaar Tour) and on stage, the noise was so loud his ears started bleeding. With the way his head injury is, Vampiro has said himself that he will probably never be able to perform a live concert which is why he never did the album. He was pretty upset about it because music was something he had always done and had always wanted to release an album and perform, but now he can't. Whether the album was ever 75% done or not remains a mystery, but I doubt it'll ever see the light of day. |
| Psychopathic Records documentary |
Blaze mentioned in his first interview with JuggaloNews.com (RealJuggalos.com at the time) and said it was in the works, but that was all that was ever heard. |
| Whatever happened to DJ Chop? |
ICP experimented with a live DJ for several of their concerts. His name was DJ Chop and he was announced as the newest Psy. family member. However, the crazy stage-rushing antics and flying Faygo of an ICP concert proved too much for a live DJ and all his equipment to handle and he and Psychopathic parted ways. Let this be a lesson to juggalo DJ's. Faygo > your turntables and mixers |
| Whatever happened to Perpetual Hype Engine? |
This local rock band from Detroit was performing a few shows, opening for ICP and even played live instruments on ICP's "Let's Go All The Way" and were supposed to be recording an album and signing to Psychopathic but somewhere along the way, they just got quietly dropped from the label. |
| "Public Service Announcment", the 20-minute rap by Violent J |
For MONTHS, this song was hyped. It was originally supposed to appear in one of the early Pendulum comic books and kept saying "It will be the CD single for the next issue" but they said that like 5 times and it never was and to this day it just never got released. |
| "Gettin' Paid" - Big Stank/Lil' Poot movie |
On the hotline one time, Twiztid revealed they were going to try to film a movie based on the characters of Lil' Poot and Big Stank from Big Money Hustlas. They wrote out a 3 page concept/idea for the movie and showed it to a director they knew in L.A. The guy liked the idea and told them to work on it and next time they were in L.A. to contact him. They never really worked on it anymore though and the whole thing basically just got cast aside. |
| StrangleMania 3 |
In early 2002, this was rumored to be on sale at the Gathering, but never was. It was supposed to be a Best of Sabu-type video with mostly Sabu death matches and shit, but it never came out and no word on it has been released since. |
| What happened to St. Lucifers? |
In the late 90's, ICP and Twiztid were contacted to take part in a real horror movie, to be released in theatres and everything. Their part would have been pretty small, but nonetheless, they were asked to join and were more than happy to. However, the movie never finished filming. Apparently, the financial backers for the movie took their money and ran, leaving the director/writer guy with no money to finish and only half a movie done. Not Psychopathic's fault this time. |
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